{"id":73,"date":"2005-04-20T15:25:00","date_gmt":"2005-04-20T19:25:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.themoonhoax.seanglennon.com\/main\/?p=71"},"modified":"2005-04-20T15:25:00","modified_gmt":"2005-04-20T19:25:00","slug":"71","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.themoonhoax.com\/?p=73","title":{"rendered":""},"content":{"rendered":"<p><b>Leftovers: Howie Payne of the Stands<\/b><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve taken most of a week to get around to this, but so it goes. Had a piece in last Thursday&#8217;s Journal News about <a href=\"http:\/\/www.thejournalnews.com\/theline\/musicline\/article\/041405\/14musicstands.html\">the Stands,<\/a> a British pop band that is just incredibly fun to listen to. I hope they succeed in building an audience here in the States.<\/p>\n<p>Howie Payne, the band&#8217;s songwriter and frontman, was a very pleasant interview subject. Engaging, good humored and down to earth. If you&#8217;re from the Valley, I can give you a bit of a sense of what he&#8217;s like in conversation by telling you that he reminds me very much of John Allen of the Big Bad Bollocks in both temperament and voice. In case that&#8217;s not helpful to you, I&#8217;ll say that Payne&#8217;s speaking voice sounds a bit like Jon Langford&#8217;s singing voice (which is pretty much the same a Jon Langford&#8217;s speaking voice, for whatever that&#8217;s worth).<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve got plenty o&#8217; leftover quotes from my chat with Howie. And here, in the usual rough Q&#038;A format that they were never meant to be presented in, they are.<\/p>\n<p><b>[Note: We&#8217;re gonna jump in sort of in the middle here, because the first quotes in the piece come from the beginning of the interview, with Howie responding to a question about what it&#8217;s like to be in the States supporting a two-year-old record just as a brand new disc is being released at home.]<\/b><br \/><i>That is a strange thing, because in England and in Europe when we do shows, we&#8217;re doing new stuff. So that is a bit strange, the fact that when we come over here and people are asking us about it in interviews: &#8220;So Howie, how are you feeling about &#8230; ? What does this song mean &#8230;? Where were you when you wrote this?&#8221; I don&#8217;t remember, man. It was like eight years ago. So it&#8217;s kind of strange to come over. It feels like we&#8217;ve stepped back in time a little bit, which is kind of strange.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>But that can only go so far, right? I mean, you&#8217;re not over here trying to rediscover the mindset you were in two years ago. You just play the songs the way you play them now &#8212; I mean, assuming that&#8217;s changed some. Does this question &#8212; I&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s even a question &#8212; does it make any sense?<\/b><br \/><i>[Laughing] Yeah. We&#8217;ve always done a fair amount of jamming on stage anyway. I don&#8217;t like to play the same stuff every night. It&#8217;s just something I don&#8217;t like to do. So a lot of the songs, we&#8217;ll just go off somewhere and have a little groove for a little bit with something or other. So it&#8217;s not like we&#8217;re trying to just repeat the same things every single night. You know, I&#8217;m always sort of careful. I don&#8217;t like playing one song too much. I always change the sets around and things like that, you know? How I&#8217;m feeling tonight kind of thing, you know?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>[Here&#8217;s where we got into all the other stuff that&#8217;s in the print piece, the stuff about how <i>All Years Leaving<\/i> got made in a hurry. We come out on the other side with Howie just having told me that he feels like the finished record is the American version, which just came out.]<\/p>\n<p>But you didn&#8217;t ultimately change all that much, right? I mean, it&#8217;s not like you decided to go back and start from scratch. You tweaked one song, used a different mix of another. It&#8217;s not a radically different version of the record that we got here.<\/b><br \/><i>I look at it like a photograph, you know? It&#8217;s kind of like, you don&#8217;t look at a photograph and think I should have had my hair cut differently. It&#8217;s done. What are you gonna do?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>So was making the new record a completely different experience for you?<\/b><br \/><i>The biggest difference is that I felt like I&#8217;d exhausted my knowledge of the studio with the first record. I have an amount of knowledge, but &#8230; it&#8217;s different. I just didn&#8217;t want a very polished record for the first record. I just wanted, like a kind of &#8220;microphone in the room with the band&#8221; record, you know? With all our frailties and warts and all. These are the songs. This is real people playing real songs, you know? But it puts a lot of pressure on you, you know? Not from like an outside source, but, you know, internally. Because you kind of get too attached to it, and I found I couldn&#8217;t really get a perspective on exactly where I was at with it. But I was determined to finish myself and not get somebody in. But for the second record I didn&#8217;t want to do that. I just thought, OK, I want to work with someone now, I want to learn some more. So we went in with a producer in the form of Tom Rothrock and we got together and worked really closely on the pre-production. You know, we did like weeks of pre-production and then three weeks recording again. So to me, it was a much smoother process. I could concentrate more on, you know, just keeping the band playing the parts that we&#8217;d focused on, and just getting the sounds right in the room.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>So now here you are and &#8212; you&#8217;ll be here in the States touring this record when the new one comes out in England, right? I know we talked about this already, but I&#8217;m still thinking about it, because it&#8217;s starting to hit me just how strange that has to be.<\/b><br \/><i>We just left England and everyone&#8217;s geared up for the next record and then we come to America and it&#8217;s all happening for the first record. That&#8217;s what&#8217;s really strange.<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>And it&#8217;s not like you restrict yourselves to your old stuff on stage here, right?<\/b><br \/><i>[Laughs again.] No, man, no. We&#8217;re kind of playing some of the new stuff anyway. We&#8217;re not being snobbish about it and being like, hey, we&#8217;ve moved on. It&#8217;s not like that. We just kind of like playing some of the new stuff, so we&#8217;re playing some of the older stuff and some of the newer stuff. But we kind of do that anyway. Half or our sets that we do in England is b-sides, you know?<\/i><\/p>\n<p><b>So that tells me that you just trust your audiences to go along with what you&#8217;re doing.<\/b><br \/><i>Oh, yeah. Our audiences are not ignorant about what&#8217;s good and bad. You don&#8217;t do your gig for your audience as much as you do your gig with your audience. There has to be a respect of your audience&#8217;s ability to know if you&#8217;re doing a good job or not.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>[Everything after this pretty much amounts to small talk, so we&#8217;ll end it here.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Leftovers: Howie Payne of the Stands I&#8217;ve taken most of a week to get around to this, but so it goes. Had a piece in last Thursday&#8217;s Journal News about the Stands, a British pop band that is just incredibly fun to listen to. 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